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Post by alicia2 on Oct 4, 2009 20:06:50 GMT -4
i mighttt be going to this date too
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Post by Serene on Oct 4, 2009 22:23:44 GMT -4
keirstin, you could get creative , and make a shirt! you could get some of that iron on paper for the printer, and make a decal. It works pretty well, you just have to use at least 80% cotton shirt for it to stick good. I was planning on wearing my dreadheads tee from DDB. Or are we supposed to be wearing an official JCM tee to do street teaming? You are not supposed to wear anything that says "Dreadhead" to Street Team in, as per the Atlantic guidelines here: www.jcsthq.com/guidelines.html (It's fine for when you're just being a fan, though!) I understand that the Atlantic people are very concerned that the Street Team should present a united front when officially representing them (which is what we are doing, really), so no special logos. But you also don't need to be wearing an official tee to Street Team, or anything that says "Jason Castro." I have an official tee, but the sleeves are too short for me to wear in public (that's a religious thing) so I will just wear a black top and a denim skirt. And comfy footwear! So is this the official Atlantic Street Team page for Jason? I've never seen this before. www.jcsthq.com/guidelines.html
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Post by McLovin on Oct 5, 2009 2:53:18 GMT -4
That page has been an active street team page since White Christmas. It was approved by Jason and the Castros at that time; it was updated for promoting the single, and was forwarded to and approved by Atlantic in the weeks leading up to the single becoming available for download with the album pre-order on Jason's site. Wanted to point out this link, too: www.jcsthq.com/ It's been available to everyone who was interested in joining the street team on the Castro Cafe, on MySpace and Facebook since February; it sends the form information to a regional leader so they can hook the street teamer up with a State Leader. Up until August 18th, anyone who clicked on one of the Street Team pages in Jason's Top Friends on Myspace would see a banner that reads "Join the Street Team" that took them to that link. We changed that link to go to Jason's Streetprop page when Jason announced in his live chat in August that his already solid street team had hooked up with Streetprop, but we've recently changed it back because it was causing too much confusion and too many people were having problems trying to negotiate their way through Streetprop's site. This way, the street team is able to provide assistance to anyone who's having issues with the site because our first requirement for new members is to join Streetprop. Jason is one of the artists under Atlantic's Street Propaganda. StreetPropaganda is Atlantic's street team for all of their pop/rock/country artists (they also have a division called Atlantic Street that their Urban/R&B artists are under.) When you join Streetprop, you're able to promote any of their artists to earn points towards prizes. Jason's page is here. Jason announced that his street team was hooking up with Streetprop during his web chat on August 18, and the street team announced (via MySpace, Facebook and the Castro Cafe) that it was joining forces with Streetprop the same day. We're all working together to promote Jason and equally committed to his success but whereas we are Jason-specific, Streetprop is responsible for all the artists under their division. We've done promotions that are exclusive to Jason Castro Street Team members and not open to all members of Streetprop (the fliering mission to promote the pre-order for the past six weeks, for example, including his appearances at The Grove, in Santa Rosa and Modesto, this week's concert in Wilkes-Barre); Streetprop provides the street team with materials, guidance and moral support. The street team provides them with enthusiastic fans that want to see Jason succeed and with mission reports to prove we really did distribute their materials instead of wallpapering our homes with glossy official Jason Castro Pre-Order Fliers. The next mission is to poster the cities that Jason will be appearing in during the Mall Tour and hand out materials at the shows themselves. If anyone can't make it out to help with those projects or isn't anywhere near a location he'll be playing (I'm in this group. Sadness.) but still wants to help advertise and promote the appearances we've got some banner graphics here that you can use on your MySpace, Facebooks or blogs to help get the word out: blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=424723957&blogId=512400787We really do need all the help we can get. Atlantic has found that sometimes it's harder to get people to attend free shows than it is to get them out to ticketed events because people are unsure of what to expect, so they're really counting on us. We need to let everyone know that what they can expect is some great music, and to do what we can to make sure the audience leaves with the information in their hands about where they can go to buy it. I know that was a lot more information than you were asking for Serene, but we know some fans have been confused about where they can go to help out and I wanted to answer some of the questions I've been hearing. Hope it helps.
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Post by kiersten67 on Oct 5, 2009 8:23:09 GMT -4
Thanks for the info McLovin. That clears things up a lot!
I've already been contacted by my street team leader and am planning on getting to the mall early to do whatever they need me to before the concert starts.
It should be fun! I can't wait to meet you all there! ;D
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Post by Serene on Oct 5, 2009 11:09:11 GMT -4
Thanks for the explanation. I'm one of those people that simply does not have the time due to RL to check on all these places like MS, Facebook, Twitter etc. I hardly have time to catch up on our own forum here. So I have been confuzzled from day one about the whole Street Team/Streetpops issue.....
After reading these guidelines, what I still don't quite understand is how it would HURT JAson if the person distributing his flyer is wearing a Castrocopia, or Goth Girl or Dreadhead Shirt. None of these places would even exist without Jason, and we're all wanting the same thing for him. So even if it may not be politically correct how would it hurt him? Do you really think the person receiving the poster is more fixated on joining the Goth Girls or Copia or the Dreadheads than learning about Jason? I think Jason appreciates ANYONE distributing his flyers and promoting him. Frankly, to me it's just taking it over the top. And this coming from me, a German who is pretty much anal about everything! ;D It would be interesting to know how other singers' fan bases handle street teaming.
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Post by Serene on Oct 5, 2009 11:58:12 GMT -4
Oh and SORRY FOR DERAILING THIS THREAD!!
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Post by jc4eva on Oct 5, 2009 13:16:31 GMT -4
Sorry for helping Serene derail this thread but in my opinion if there is a person wearing Castrocopia or Goth Girl or Dreadhead shirts and TOGETHER they are distributing flyers on behalf of Jason, IT WOULD SHOW MORE UNITY AMONGST THE FAN BASES AND IT WON'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM JASON. IT IS JASON AFTER ALL THAT BROUGHT US ALL TOGETHER. The division is only an issue if it is made into an issue. But we can show unity in so many other ways as we all know some of us are what I call neopolitan...they are Dreadheads as much as Goth Girls as much as Castrocopian. What we choose to wear shouldn't be an issue after all we are all volunteers. I also think that Atlantic Streetprop will be absolutely delighted to welcome everyone regardless of their fanbase affiliation. Let me get this clear too...in my opinion distributing any other "propaganda" besides the Street Team sanctioned ones should be separate. So if you want to distribute other "propagandas" then you have to choose which one you are going to do. You can't do both. But I do not make the rules and I am only stating my opinion in response to Serene's post.
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Post by McLovin on Oct 5, 2009 15:03:41 GMT -4
Streetprop is delighted with all the support -- fanbase affliation is a non-issue that doesn't even enter the equation. It would be interesting to know how other singers' fan bases handle street teaming. Most other singers don't have to deal with multiple fanbase factions, or even fans that call themselves anything else but "fans". It's a phenomenon that's peculiar to American Idol contestants, and if this discussion were about anyone outside of AI this part of the conversation wouldn't even come up. Jason has said that getting beyond American Idol is his main goal in life (in an EW interview with Michael Slezak, I believe, but I'm not sure anymore since it happened more than a week ago.) The idea of getting beyond AI was the reason for the "no fan base specific" rule for the street team because fan bases like ours are so specific to AI. Another reason is that when you're street teaming live promotions (rather than online), you have a moment of about 5 seconds to get your message across. That message needs to be "Jason rules. Get his music. Go to his website." The world has short attention spans anyway and fan base paraphernalia just confuses the message. And of course he appreciates anyone that's distributing fliers and promoting him --- this has nothing to do with that. Despite that there are 3 big fan groups that are all there because of Jason, the three of them combined aren't enough to sustain a career over the long term; he needs exposure to new fans and the street team's job is to expedite that exposure by directing new fans to his site, not to one of the independent boards. Street teaming is about the artist, not the fan doing the street-teaming. And believe it or not, those potential new fans could care less about fan base unity, because that's also something that's peculiar only to American Idol contestants and their fans. Honestly, all any of us want is to do the best we can to promote Jason in the way he deserves to be promoted. He deserves for the world to know that he's more than just "that guy with the dreads from American Idol", and when someone is walking away from me after I've just given them a flier I want them thinking "Hmmm. Jason Castro.", not "What the Hell is a Castrocopia?"
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Post by Same Cage on Oct 5, 2009 15:46:58 GMT -4
You make some very good points McLovin.
When it comes to promoting Jason and trying to launch his career into the stratosphere, I trust that the experts (in this case Atlantic & Streetprop) know way more than I could even begin to imagine and so, I will happily follow their lead.
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Post by Serene on Oct 5, 2009 15:47:07 GMT -4
Since I have never supported an artist before like I do with Jason, I really have no idea if this is accurate or not.
And isn't that exactly what you're doing when your placing a flyer in someone's hand and say exactly that? Do you really think that the average person would rather check out what you're wearing and ask you what that sign on your T-Shirt means? I know I wouldn't, but perhaps I'm not an average person?
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Post by deborah77 on Oct 5, 2009 15:49:28 GMT -4
It reflects better on Jason IMO, having his Street Team wearing only the JCM shirt or, street clothes when they're doing their thing. He's in the big time now and he's only going to get bigger. It's so important that when the Street Team outreach people not familiar with him, that the people get the impression of a professional endeavor, not just a group of fans handing out flyers. I know if someone Street Teamed me with information about someone I wasn't familiar with, my decision whether or not to check the artist out would be influenced by my first impression of the artist and that would most likely come from the Street Team.
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Post by deborah77 on Oct 5, 2009 15:56:03 GMT -4
Since I have never supported an artist before like I do with Jason, I really have no idea if this is accurate or not. And isn't that exactly what you're doing when your placing a flyer in someone's hand and say exactly that? Do you really think that the average person would rather check out what you're wearing and ask you what that sign on your T-Shirt means? I know I wouldn't, but perhaps I'm not an average person? I wouldn't call you "average" Serene and, that's a GOOD thing. ;D I tend to ask stupid questions and I'd be the one asking "what is that on your tshirt?" "what's a Dreadhead?" "why do you call yourselves that?" Until they got tired of it and walked away. I know. I ask too many questions.
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Post by Alina on Oct 5, 2009 16:04:38 GMT -4
Well then if your saying that nobody really looks at the shirt/clothes that your wearing anyway, then why is it so important to wear respected site tee-shirts at all? If we just wear our regular clothes the message will get out, and we will steer new fans to Jason's official site, and all should be good.
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Post by Serene on Oct 5, 2009 16:31:58 GMT -4
Well then if your saying that nobody really looks at the shirt/clothes that your wearing anyway, then why is it so important to wear respected site tee-shirts at all? If we just wear our regular clothes the message will get out, and we will steer new fans to Jason's official site, and all should be good. I'm not saying it's important ...all I'm saying is that personally I feel it does not make any difference what you're wearing, especially if that 5 second rule applies....
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Post by McLovin on Oct 5, 2009 16:38:27 GMT -4
Point taken, Serene. But this alone helps me understand why you may have that opinion: Since I have never supported an artist before like I do with Jason, I really have no idea if this is accurate or not. I have no reason to pull what you were responding to out of thin air. And considering that you can go to almost any non-AI contestant's official site and see for yourself it would be lunacy for me to say it if it wasn't true.
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Post by Serene on Oct 5, 2009 16:46:49 GMT -4
Point taken, Serene. But this alone helps me understand why you may have that opinion: I have no reason to pull what you were responding to out of thin air. And considering that you can go to almost any non-AI contestant's official site and see for yourself it would be lunacy for me to say it if it wasn't true. Sorry, but I don't see how you would know how many fan groups a particular artist has by visiting their official website. A google search would probably be more appropriate for that. But I'm not trying to start a war here, McLovin. Just stating my personal opinion which happens to be different from yours and perhaps the JCST.
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Post by kiersten67 on Oct 5, 2009 17:16:27 GMT -4
Maybe we could get a head count of who is going to White Plains so we can make plans to meet up and have lunch or something fun before the show.
Let us all know where you are coming from. I'll start:
Kiersten- Northwest CT (New Hartford)
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Post by deborah77 on Oct 5, 2009 17:20:01 GMT -4
Deborah77 New Jersey via NYC
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Post by McLovin on Oct 5, 2009 17:22:13 GMT -4
Serene - for example if you looked on the Castro Cafe before the website was switched -- Jason's official forum at the time -- you would have seen several different fan groups named in any number of thread titles. My point was that if I was purposefully passing on inaccurate information, it would be easy enough for you to find contrary information for yourself whether that be via an official site, Google, or asking the artist yourself at a meet and greet. You said that you don't follow other artists -- I was just trying to help.
I'm not trying to start a war either, and in the grand scheme of things our differing opinions don't really matter anyway. The guidelines were developed under guidance from Jason's manager and approved by Jason and the Castros, so that's how I'm going to street team for him.
Anyway -- Sorry for continuing the aforementioned derail.
You guys that are going have fun at the concert!
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Post by Serene on Oct 5, 2009 17:36:00 GMT -4
Maybe we could get a head count of who is going to White Plains so we can make plans to meet up and have lunch or something fun before the show. Let us all know where you are coming from. I'll start: Kiersten- Northwest CT (New Hartford) Sorry for hijacking this thread. I am going to stop now because this is not the right place to discuss differing opinions. I'm excited for you guys who are going!
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